Where the four schools differ
This question turns on one issue in our madhhab register: The grandmother’s sixth — and whether a living father shuts out his own mother — when a grandmother inherits, how much she takes, and whether it matters which grandmother she is — in particular whether a surviving father excludes his own mother from the estate
Researched positions from our madhhab register — issue grandmother-share, reviewed 2026-09-05.
Four things are settled, and one caution. Settled: a grandmother takes one sixth where the deceased left no mother — Ibn al-Mundhir’s ijma‘, repeated by the Kuwaiti Mawsu’a. Where more than one qualifies they share that one sixth, never a sixth each; Abu Bakr first gave it to the mother’s mother alone and, on being challenged, divided it between the two, and ‘Umar told the second grandmother “if you are together it is for the two of you; whichever of you is alone with it, it is hers”. A surviving mother excludes every grandmother on both sides — ijma‘, stated in those words by Ibn Qudama and by the Mawsu’a. And a grandmother who reaches the deceased through a male standing between two females (the maternal grandfather’s mother) is fasida: she takes no fixed share at all, though she may inherit later as distant kin — Ibn al-Mundhir’s ijma‘ again, and al-Buhuti’s ittifaqan. The caution: the schools do not agree on how far up the entitlement runs. The Malikis admit at most two grandmothers and refuse the grandfather’s mother outright; the Hanbalis admit three; the Hanafis and Shafi’is set no numerical cap. Those differences bite only above the first generation, which is further than most estates reach — but they are real, and a calculator that only models a mother’s mother and a father’s mother is not deciding them.
Full positions, evidence and history: The grandmother’s sixth — and whether a living father shuts out his own mother — the issue page.
Putting this into a Canadian will
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Citations & sources
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- Ibn Qudama, al-Mughni, Bab al-jaddat, mas’ala 4858 — Ibn al-Mundhir’s ijma‘ that the grandmother takes the sixth where the deceased left no mother, and “wa ajma‘a ahlu al-‘ilmi ‘ala anna al-umma tahjubu al-jaddati min jami‘i al-jihat”; with the report of Abu Bakr, al-Mughira b. Shu‘ba and Muhammad b. Maslama, and ‘Umar’s ruling to the second grandmother — “fa-in ijtama‘tuma fa-huwa lakuma, wa ayyatukuma khalat bihi fa-huwa laha” — Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi (d. 620 AH)
- al-Mughni, mas’ala 4859 — “ajma‘a ahlu al-‘ilmi ‘ala anna mirathi al-jaddati al-sudusu wa in kathurna”, with Abu Bakr’s revised ruling dividing the sixth between umm al-umm and umm al-ab after ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Sahl’s objection; and “wa la khilafa bayna ahli al-‘ilmi fi tawrithi jaddatayn: ummi al-ummi wa ummi al-ab” — Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi (d. 620 AH)
- al-Mughni — which grandmothers inherit: umm al-umm however high, umm al-ab and her mothers, umm al-jadd and her mothers, but “wa la tarithu ummu abi’l-jaddi, wa la kullu jaddatin adlat bi-akthara min thalathati aba’”; “wa ajma‘a ahlu al-‘ilmi ‘ala anna al-jaddata al-mudliyata bi-abin ghayri warithin la tarithu, wa hiya kullu jaddatin adlat bi-abin bayna ummayn, ka-ummi abi’l-umm”; and the school-by-school count — one on Dawud’s view, two for Malik, three for Ahmad, more for Abu Hanifa — Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi (d. 620 AH)
- al-Mughni, mas’ala 4863, al-jaddatu tarithu wa-ibnuha hayy — the paternal grandmother beside her living son: ‘Umar, Ibn Mas‘ud, Abu Musa, ‘Imran b. al-Husayn and Abu’l-Tufayl gave her a share with him, “wa huwa zahiru madhhabi Ahmada b. Hanbal”; against them Zayd b. Thabit, reported also from ‘Uthman and ‘Ali, “wa bihi qala Malikun … wa’l-Shafi‘iyyu … wa ashabu al-ra’y, wa huwa riwayatun ‘an Ahmada rawahu ‘anhu jama‘atun min ashabih”; the reasoning “li-anna al-jaddati ummahatun yarithna miratha al-ummi la miratha al-abi fa-la yuhjabna bihi ka-ummahati al-umm”; and “wa la khilafa fi tawrithiha ma‘a ibniha idha kana ‘amman” — Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi (d. 620 AH)
- al-Buhuti, Kashshaf al-Qina’ ‘an matn al-Iqna‘, fasl fi irth al-jadda — “wa li-jaddatin fa-aktharu (ila thalathin) idha tahadhayna … al-sudusu ijma‘an”, on the hadith of ‘Ubada b. al-Samit that the Prophet “qada li’l-jaddatayni mina al-mirathi bi’l-sudusi baynahuma”; and, on the preceding case, “li-anna al-jaddata la tarithu ma‘a al-umm” — Mansur b. Yunus al-Buhuti (d. 1051 AH)
- Kashshaf al-Qina’ — the nearer grandmother, even on the father’s side, excluding the more remote (“wa qala Malikun wa’l-Shafi‘iyyu fi’l-sahihi ‘anhu: la tahjubu al-qurba min jihati al-abi al-bu‘da min jihati al-umm”); and the Hanbali cap — “wa la yarithu aktharu min thalathi jaddat”, namely umm al-umm, umm al-ab and umm al-jadd (abi’l-abi only) with their mothers by pure maternity — Mansur b. Yunus al-Buhuti (d. 1051 AH)
- Kashshaf al-Qina’ — “wa tarithu al-jaddatu (ummu al-ab) wa tarithu ummu al-jaddi wa-ibnuhuma hayyun, sawa’un kana aban aw jaddan — fa-la yahjubu al-abu umma nafsihi, wa la umma abihi, wa kadhalika al-jaddu la yahjubu ummahu (kama law kana ‘amman)”, with the reports from ‘Umar and Ibn Mas‘ud; and the enumeration of the mutahadhiyat — Mansur b. Yunus al-Buhuti (d. 1051 AH)
- Kashshaf al-Qina’ — “wa amma ummu abi’l-ummi wa ummu abi’l-jaddi fa-la tarithani bi-anfusihima fardan; li-annahuma min dhawi al-arham, bal tarithani bi’l-tanzili ‘inda tawrithi dhawi al-arham, wa kadha kullu jaddatin adlat bi-dhakarin bayna unthayayn, ittifaqan”, the editors’ note cross-referring al-Sarakhsi’s Mabsut, Tabyin al-Haqa’iq and al-Bahr al-Ra’iq (Hanafi), al-Zurqani, al-Kharashi and al-Sharh al-Saghir (Maliki), and Rawdat al-Talibin, Mughni al-Muhtaj and al-Ghurar al-Bahiyya (Shafi’i) — Mansur b. Yunus al-Buhuti (d. 1051 AH)
- Kashshaf al-Qina’, fasl fi’l-hajb — “wa tasqutu al-jaddatu min kulli jihatin ay min jihati al-abi aw al-ummi bi’l-umm; li-anna al-jaddati yarithna bi’l-wiladati, fa-kanati al-ummu awla minhunna li-mubasharatiha al-wilada”; with the grandfather excluded by the father ijma‘an — and the father’s exclusion list naming no grandmother at all — Mansur b. Yunus al-Buhuti (d. 1051 AH)
- al-Haskafi, al-Durr al-Mukhtar with Ibn ‘Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar, Kitab al-Fara’id — “wa’l-sudusu li’l-jaddati mutlaqan (ka-ummi ummin wa ummi abin) fa-sa‘idan yashtarikna fihi idh kunna thabitatin (ay sahihatin) mutahadhiyatun fi’l-darajati li-anna al-qurba tahjubu al-bu‘da”; Ibn ‘Abidin’s definition — “al-jaddatu al-sahihatu man laysa fi nisbatiha ila al-mayyiti jaddun fasid: al-mudliyatu bi-mahdi al-inathi ka-ummi ummi al-umm, aw bi-mahdi al-dhukuri ka-ummi abi’l-ab, aw bi-mahdi al-inathi ila mahdi al-dhukuri ka-ummi ummi al-ab, bi-khilafi al-‘aksi ka-ummi abi’l-ummi fa-innaha fasida”; and that umm al-ab is either an heir when the father is absent “aw mahjubatan bi’l-abi ‘inda wujudihi” — Muhammad Amin b. ‘Abidin (d. 1252 AH)
- al-Durr al-Mukhtar with Radd al-Muhtar, fasl on exclusion — “wa tasqutu al-jaddatu mutlaqan, abawiyyatin am ummiyyatin, bi’l-ummi; wa’l-abawiyyatu bi’l-abi; wa kadha bi’l-jaddi illa umma al-abi wa in ‘alat fa-innaha tarithu ma‘a al-jaddi li-annaha laysat min qibalihi bal hiya zawjatuhu fa-kana ka’l-abawayn”; followed by “wa tahjubu al-qurba min ayyi jihatin kanat al-bu‘da” — Muhammad Amin b. ‘Abidin (d. 1252 AH)
- al-Dardir, al-Sharh al-Kabir with Hashiyat al-Dasuqi, Bab fi’l-fara’id — “wa’l-jaddatu fa-aktharu: fardhuha al-sudusu, illa annahu la yarithu ‘indana aktharu min jaddatayn: ummu al-ummi wa ummuha wa in ‘alat, wa ummu al-abi wa ummuha … fa-man adlat bi-dhakarin min jihati al-ummi aw min jihati al-abi ghayri al-abi lam tarith. Wa asqatatha al-ummu mutlaqan wa law min jihati al-ab; wa asqata al-abu al-jaddata min qibalihi faqat”, with the nearer maternal excluding the further paternal and otherwise “ishtarakata fi’l-sudus”; and al-Dasuqi’s summary of the four grandmothers, of whom umm abi’l-abi “la tarithu ‘inda Malik” and umm abi’l-ummi “la tarithu ijma‘an” — Ahmad al-Dardir (d. 1201 AH) with Muhammad b. Ahmad al-Dasuqi (d. 1230 AH)
- al-Khatib al-Shirbini, Mughni al-Muhtaj, Kitab al-Fara’id, fasl fi’l-hajb — on the Minhaj’s “wa’l-jaddatu li’l-ummi la yahjubuha illa al-umm”: “idh laysa baynaha wa bayna al-mayyiti ghayruha fa-la tuhjabu bi’l-abi wa la bi’l-jadd” — al-Khatib al-Shirbini (d. 977 AH)
- Mughni al-Muhtaj — “wa’l-jaddatu li’l-abi yahjubuha al-abu (li-annaha tudli bihi) awi al-ummu (ay tahjubu al-jaddata li’l-abi aydan bi’l-ijma‘)”, with “wa li-dhalika tahjubu al-ummu jami‘a al-jaddati mina al-jihatayni bi-khilafi al-ab”; the nearer maternal excluding the further paternal; and, fi’l-azhar, the nearer paternal NOT excluding the further maternal — “bal yakunu al-sudusu baynahuma nisfayn” — al-Khatib al-Shirbini (d. 977 AH)
- Mughni al-Muhtaj, fasl fi bayan irth al-ab wa’l-jadd wa irth al-umm — the Minhaj’s “wa’l-abu yusqitu umma nafsihi wa la yusqituha al-jadd”, glossed “li-annaha tudli bihi” and, of the grandfather, “li-annaha zawjatuhu, wa’l-shakhsu la yusqitu zawjata nafsihi, fa’l-abu wa’l-jaddu siyyani fi anna kullan minhuma yusqitu umma nafsihi”; with the counting rule “al-aba la yarithu ma‘ahu illa jaddatun wahida” while two inherit beside a grandfather, three beside his father, and so on; and “wa li’l-jaddati al-sudusu … wa kadha al-jaddat” — al-Khatib al-Shirbini (d. 977 AH)
- Mughni al-Muhtaj — the dabit of the inheriting grandmothers: “kullu jaddatin adlat bi-mahdi inathin aw dhukurin aw inathin ila dhukurin tarith, wa man adlat bi-dhakarin bayna unthayayni fa-la”, “wa haka Ibnu al-Mundhiri fihi al-ijma‘”; umm abi’l-abi and the mothers of the grandfathers above him inherit ‘ala al-mashhur, with the second view named; and that only ever one grandmother from the mother’s side inherits, the number on the father’s side rising with each degree — al-Khatib al-Shirbini (d. 977 AH)
- al-Nawawi, Rawdat al-Talibin, Kitab al-Fara’id, on the exclusion of the ascendants — “fa’l-ummu tahjubu kulla jaddatin sawa’un kana min jihatiha aw min jihati al-ab … wa’l-abu yahjubu kulla jaddatin min jihatihi, wa kadha kullu jaddin yahjubu umma nafsihi wa umma aba’ihi, wa la yahjubu umma man dunahu, wa’l-abu wa’l-ajdadu la yahjubuna al-jaddata min jihati al-ummi qaribatan kanat aw ba‘idatan bi’l-ijma‘”; and the nearer of each side excluding the more remote of that side — Yahya b. Sharaf al-Nawawi (d. 676 AH)
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya al-Kuwaytiyya, entry “Jadda” sec. 2 — “ajma‘a al-fuqaha’u ‘ala tawrithi jaddatayn: ummi al-ummi wa ummi al-abi wa ummahatihima wa in ‘alawna bi-mahdi al-inath”, and the division over umm al-jadd (umm abi’l-ab): the majority, “wa huwa madhhabu al-Hanafiyyati wa’l-Shafi‘iyyati wa’l-Hanabila”, give her a share, “wa dhahaba al-Malikiyyatu ila ‘adami tawrithiha” — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, “Jadda” sec. 3 — “wa’ttafaqa al-fuqaha’u ‘ala anna al-jaddata allati tudli ila al-mayyiti bi-dhakarin bayna ummayni fasida, wa la tarithu … wa hiya tarithu miratha al-arham”; and “ajma‘a ahlu al-‘ilmi ‘ala anna li’l-jaddati al-sudusa idha lam yakun li’l-mayyiti ummun” — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, “Jadda” sec. 3 cont. — the sixth is due whether the grandmother is on the mother’s or the father’s side, near or far, one or many: “fa-qad ajma‘a ahlu al-‘ilmi ‘ala anna mirathi al-jaddati al-sudusu aydan wa in kathurna”, on ‘Umar’s ruling “in ijtama‘tuma fa-huwa lakuma, wa ayyatukuma khalat bihi fa-huwa laha” — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, “Jadda” sec. 4, hajb al-jadda — “fa-qad ajma‘a ahlu al-‘ilmi ‘ala anna al-umma tahjubu kulla al-jaddati sawa’un akunna min jihatiha aw min jihati al-ab”; “wa ajma‘u ‘ala anna kulla jaddatin qurba tahjubu al-bu‘da allati min jihatiha mutlaqan”; and the split over the nearer paternal against the further maternal — the Hanafis say she excludes her, the Malikis that the sixth is halved between them, the Shafi‘i azhar and “al-riwayatu al-mansusatu ‘an Ahmad” that she does not — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, “Jadda” sec. 5 — “wa’khtalafu fi hajbi al-jaddati bi-ibniha, ay bi-abi al-mayyiti aw jaddihi. Fa-dhahaba al-Hanafiyyatu wa’l-Malikiyyatu wa’l-Shafi‘iyyatu fi zahiri al-madhhabi, wa’l-Hanabilatu fi ihda al-riwayatayni, ila annahu yahjubuha, fa-la tarithu ma‘a wujudi al-abi illa jaddatun wahidatun wa hiya allati min qibali al-umm … wa dhahaba al-Hanabilatu fi zahiri al-madhhabi … ila annaha tarithu ma‘a ibniha” — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait