Where the four schools differ
This question turns on one issue in our madhhab register: Does a grandfather exclude the deceased’s brothers and sisters? — where the deceased leaves a paternal grandfather alongside full or consanguine brothers and sisters, whether the grandfather stands in the father’s place and excludes them entirely, or inherits alongside them
Researched positions from our madhhab register — issue grandfather-with-siblings, reviewed 2026-09-01.
The split runs through the Hanafi school, not only between the schools. Abu Hanifa’s own two senior companions, Abu Yusuf and Muhammad al-Shaybani, held the majority position, and both the Mawsu’a and Ibn Qudama list them with Malik and al-Shafi’i rather than with their teacher. The sources consulted here nonetheless describe the Hanafi school itself by Abu Hanifa’s rule — Islamweb says flatly that “the Hanafis place the grandfather in the father’s position in excluding the siblings”. Three further points are agreed on all sides and are worth stating because they narrow the dispute. Nothing turns on it unless full or consanguine siblings survive: uterine siblings are excluded by the grandfather by agreement (Ibn Qudama: “there is no disagreement among them that he drops the brothers’ sons and the mother’s children”). The grandfather is never excluded himself by anyone but the father, and never takes less than a sixth. And Abu Hanifa does not treat him as a father everywhere even on his own view: in husband + mother + grandfather, and wife + mother + grandfather, he gives the mother a third of the whole estate, not the third of the remainder she would take beside a father.
Full positions, evidence and history: Does a grandfather exclude the deceased’s brothers and sisters? — the issue page.
Questions that turn on this
Every answer below renders its madhhab position from this one entry, so the positions cannot drift apart between pages.
Citations & sources
Every factual claim on this page traces to a source below. Details change — check the original source before relying on any figure, fee or legal position.
- Surah an-Nisa 4:176 — the kalalah verse — Quran.com
- Surah an-Nisa 4:11 — shares of children and parents — Quran.com
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya al-Kuwaytiyya, entry “Irth” sec. 30, <i>al-jadd ma‘a al-ikhwa</i> — “ittafaqa al-fuqaha’u ‘ala ‘adami tawrithi al-ikhwati aw al-akhawati li-ummin ma‘a al-jadd”; then, for full and consanguine siblings, “fa-inna al-a’immata: <b>Malikan</b> wa <b>al-Shafi‘iyya</b> wa <b>Ahmada</b> wa sahibay <b>Abi Hanifata</b> dhahabu ila tawrithi al-ikhwati al-ashiqqa’i aw li-abin ma‘a al-jadd. Wa dhahaba al-imamu <b>Abu Hanifata</b> ila anna al-jadda ya’khudhu hukma al-abi fa-yahjubu al-ikhwa”, with al-Tabari, al-Muzani and Abu Thawr agreeing with Abu Hanifa, and his two exceptions flagged forward to sec. 32 — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, “Irth” sec. 30 cont. — the proofs on each side: for Abu Hanifa, that the jurists agree a son’s son excludes the siblings and the grandfather stands at the same remove on the other end of the line, and “alhiqu al-fara’ida bi-ahliha”; against him, that the siblings’ inheritance is established by Q 4:176 and no text removes it, that grandfather and brother both reach the deceased through the father so “qarabatu al-bunuwwati la taqillu ‘an qarabati al-ubuwwa”, and that the grandfather does not stand in the father’s place in every ruling — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, “Irth” sec. 31, <i>nasib al-jadd ma‘a al-ikhwa</i> — “lam yarid nassun fi’l-kitabi wa la fi’l-sunnati fi miqdari mirathi al-jaddi ma‘a al-ikhwa”; Zayd ibn Thabit’s doctrine, that the grandfather shares as a brother but never below a third, “wa hadha ma dhahaba ilayhi al-a’immatu: <b>Malikun</b>, wa <b>Ahmadu bnu Hanbal</b>, wa Abu Yusufa, wa Muhammadun min al-Hanafiyya, wa qayyada <b>al-Shafi‘iyyatu</b> dhalika bima idha lam yakun ma‘ahu sahibu fardin, fa-in kana ma‘ahu sahibu fardin fa-lahu khayru thalathati umur: imma al-muqasamatu, wa imma thuluthu al-baqi, wa imma thuluthu jami‘i al-mal”; and Ibn Qudama’s worked example for the Hanbalis — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, “Irth” sec. 32 — the two cases Abu Hanifa himself excepts from treating the grandfather as a father: husband + mother + grandfather, and wife + mother + grandfather, where “li’l-ummi … thuluthu jami‘i al-mal” rather than a third of the remainder as it would be with a father — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, “Irth” secs. 47–48, the categories of residuary — the ordering puts the siblings after the grandfather “‘inda al-imami <b>Abi Hanifata</b>, khilafan li’l-sahibayn”, so that “dhahaba al-sahibani wa <b>al-Hanabilatu</b> ila anna jihati al-‘usubati sittun: al-bunuwwatu thumma al-ubuwwatu thumma al-jududatu ma‘a al-ukhuwwati…, wa ‘inda al-imami <b>Abi Hanifata</b> khamsu jihatin faqat” — the grandfather-with-siblings category being the one the Hanafi ordering does not have — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- al-Mawsu’a al-Fiqhiyya, entry “Hajb” secs. 4–5 — “wa’khtalafu fima idha kana al-ikhwatu al-ashiqqa’u wa’l-ikhwatu li’l-abi yuhjabuna bi’l-jaddi abi al-ab”: <b>Abu Hanifa</b> holds the grandfather excludes them, reading <i>kalala</i> as not covering a case where a grandfather survives “li-annahu walidun li’l-mayyit”, with Abu Bakr al-Siddiq and Ibn ‘Abbas; “wa dhahaba jumhuru al-‘ulama’i wa humu <b>al-Malikiyyatu</b> wa <b>al-Shafi‘iyyatu</b> wa <b>al-Hanabilatu</b> wa sahiba Abi Hanifata ila anna al-jadda la yahjubu al-akha al-shaqiqa aw li-abin bal yarithu ma‘ah” — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait
- Ibn Qudama, al-Mughni, <i>Bab mirath al-jadd</i> — the hadith of ‘Imran ibn Husayn and Ma‘qil ibn Yasar giving the grandfather a sixth; Ibn al-Mundhir’s “ajma‘a ahlu al-‘ilmi min ashabi rasuli’llah … anna al-jadda aba al-abi la yahjubuhu ‘an al-mirathi ghayru al-ab, wa anzalu al-jadda fi’l-hajbi wa’l-mirathi manzilata al-abi fi jami‘i al-mawadi‘i illa fi thalathati ashya’” — the third being “ikhtalafu fi’l-jaddi ma‘a al-ikhwati wa’l-akhawati li’l-abawayni aw li’l-ab”; “wa la khilafa baynahum fi isqatihi bani al-ikhwati wa walada al-umm”; and Abu Bakr al-Siddiq’s position that the grandfather drops all the siblings — Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi (d. 620 AH)
- al-Mughni, <i>Bab mirath al-jadd</i> cont. — the two camps named: with Abu Bakr (grandfather excludes) “Qatadatu, wa Ishaqu, wa Abu Thawrin … wa <b>Abu Hanifata</b>, wa al-Muzaniyyu…”; against them “wa kana ‘Aliyyu bnu Abi Talibin, wa’bnu Mas‘udin, wa Zaydu bnu Thabitin … yuwarrithunahum ma‘ahu wa la yahjubunahum bih. Wa bihi qala <b>Malikun</b> wa’l-Awza‘iyyu, wa <b>al-Shafi‘iyyu</b>, wa Abu Yusufa, wa Muhammadun”; with ‘Ali’s tree-and-branches image and Zayd’s valley-and-streams image — Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi (d. 620 AH)
- al-Mughni, masa’il 4868–4869 — “wa madhhabu <b>Abi ‘Abdi’llah</b> [Ahmad ibn Hanbal] … fi’l-jaddi, qawlu Zaydi bni Thabit: wa idha kana ikhwatun wa akhawatun wa jaddun, qasamahum al-jaddu bi-manzilati akhin, hatta yakuna al-thuluthu khayran”; and, where fixed-share heirs are also present, the grandfather takes the best of three — sharing as a brother, a third of the remainder, or a sixth of the whole estate; plus the <i>mu‘adda</i> rule by which full siblings count the consanguine ones against him and then take what those receive — Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi (d. 620 AH)
- Islamweb fatwa 66473, “Mirath al-jadd wa’l-jadda ma‘a al-ikhwa wa’l-akhawat” — “wa li’l-‘ulama’i minha maslakan: <b>fa’l-Hanafiyyatu yunazziluna al-jadda manzilata al-abi fi hajbi al-ikhwati fa-la yarithuna ma‘ahu shay’an</b> … wa’l-maslaku al-thani maslaku al-jumhuri wa minhumu al-a’immatu al-thalathatu <b>Malikun</b> wa <b>al-Shafi‘iyyu</b> wa <b>Ahmadu</b>”, with the three-way election worked on a real estate, and al-Rahbi’s line that uterine siblings are dropped by the grandfather — Fatwa Centre, Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Qatar
- al-Mughni (Maktabat al-Qahira edition) — full Arabic text — Ibn Qudama al-Maqdisi (d. 620 AH)
- al-Mawsu'a al-Fiqhiyya al-Kuwaitiyya — the Kuwaiti encyclopaedia of fiqh — Ministry of Awqaf and Islamic Affairs, Kuwait